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          School Nickname Worldmonkey 
          GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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        Posted - 2012.03.14 00:00:00 -
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          I truly apologise PL, but it looks as though you're going to have to accept the fact that dropping Titans on subcaps with utter impunity might no longer be an option available to you. We had a really nice fight in Dek a few days ago where our fleets were fighting OH and NC. (I think) and it had really nice escalation. We fought their lokis with our battlecruisers, enemy battleships arrive and we continued to fight. Enemy dreads were dropped in. We dropped in dreads. Losses on all sides. Everyone is happy, including wormhole producers! That's the type of fight most EVE players want to experience.
  The very concept of your alliance and those like yours aims to prevent this experience. You merely hotdrop whom you please denying any escalation whatsoever. In a sense you act like what I hope players in CCP's future WoD MMO will act, denying new arrivals major progression to protect your own interests. Or you could just be completely drunk from the smell of your own preseminal fluid when you hotdrop frigates, because no one else with a brain is willing to put up with your ****. Smaller players aren't really willing to lose what they perceive to be expensive ships without significant reimbursement and they sure as hell aren't going to fight when there is literally zero chance of winning. I really don't know how you can have fun popping ships which would never have beaten you anyway.
  Also, the argument that an alliance could simply haul up 200 dread pilots to annihilate your titans is spurious. You know full well that were anyone to scratch together that number of dreads, your knowledge of such ships on the field (through good scouting, or otherwise) would send you screaming to the hills. Like your performance in C-J6, you balk at commiting Titans whenever there is even the slightest chance of losing them. If you really weren't willing to lose these hugely expensive ships, you shouldn't have bought them in the first place. You could have had a lot more fun constantly losing less expensive ships that people were willing to fight against.
  In my opinion theses changes will allow true battle progression (Small ships -> Bigger ships -> The Worst ships) in the future. Maybe you'll be able to join us with machariel/dread fleets or something, since your coffers will be so full from getting those 500 hours of your life back in cold hard ISK. I've only ever felt that Titans were space taxis used to increase an alliance's force projection anyway
  tl;dr Sorry Grath that your e-peen was circumcised, looks mutilated and is now not very pleasurable to use. At least you can acquire your fun in other ways. :heh: | 
      
      
      
          
          School Nickname Worldmonkey 
          GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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        Posted - 2012.03.14 00:35:00 -
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          Grath Telkin wrote:SuperBeastie wrote:Grath do me a favor go through and list out the numbers of supers and titan the cfc has by alliance.  Top 5 supercap alliances in EVE: PL (Nearly 400) NCdot (281 on file) AAA (280 on file) RAIDEN (260 on file) Goonswarm Federation (200 even on file  but growing daily because I desperately want to paint mean goonies as the badguys stealing my poor win button away... and and a bloo bloo bloo) FA adds 40, RAZOR adds about 80, TEST adds 70, and those are just the major super cap holders for the CFC, the rest are 20-30 additions from their camp, with Eovke adding another 60 to Raidens team.  
  Do you literally believe that goon supercapitals will not be affected by these changes? You people literally have to grow up, make a decision and move on over the loss of your k:d ratios. At least raiden have (kinda) shut up about the whole thing and have begun firesales.Your titans are still a very important ship for force projection and capital ship destruction. If push comes to shove your titans could go down a blaze of glorious violence against your perceived goon oppressors. | 
      
      
      
          
          School Nickname Worldmonkey 
          GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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        Posted - 2012.03.14 01:32:00 -
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  Because he speaks the truth. Even if you aren't completely rectally distraught over losing the Titan's ability to pad your k:d ratios with frig/destroyers KMs, the argument that you'll be ~completely helpless~ against dreads (assuming you even choose to fight them), whose only option of killing you is entering siege for 5mins and being helpless if you have a support fleet (Oh wait, you don't even use them ) falls flat on its face after any significant analysis.
  Besides, we won't know if CCP actually decides to pay their employess in Canadian Dollars to motivate them to turn Titans into anti-captial ships. We've only seen a possible (albeit likely) path Titans can take. | 
      
      
      
          
          School Nickname Worldmonkey 
          GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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        Posted - 2012.03.14 02:22:00 -
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          Surge Roth wrote:Andski wrote:I'm so mad, I'm going to express my anger!  Don't be mad that I'm right. Face it bro, using carrier signature sized vessels will get hit by titans.  
  Of course they'll be hit by titans, we simply don't care. Our issue is that you can just throw down unsupported titans and devastate entire fleets with utter impunity. This has been covered enough over the course of this thread that you should be able to contain your rage when confronted with the truth.
  You can continue to desperately assault our valiant forum warriors for all the good that it will do. It won't change the facts. :heh: | 
      
      
      
          
          School Nickname Worldmonkey 
          GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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        Posted - 2012.03.14 02:29:00 -
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          Surge Roth wrote: Keeping your mwds on all the time to increase your sig radius to near carrier levels with the hp of a battlecruiser deserves to get shot down by a lone titan without any fleet members, but let's be honest here. That don't happen. Freak accidents don't count either.
  
  Maybe you need more XXbn officer sebos to feel good about yourselves and whine some more about you can't hit jack without them. | 
      
      
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